Avatar (the movie) -- What are your thoughts?

Long lines, sold out shows, by now, many of you have seen Avatar. What do you think of it? Blog about it and put "Avatar" in the keywords or comment below. Click "Read More" for a trailer to get you back in the mood. Sorry, no glasses available. -- gg
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Quick Review
Positives:
It's pretty. People like that. The 3D in Imax was mindboggling, if a little annoying at the hour-and-a-half mark- and mind you, that's a bit more than half way.
Problems:
The story is predictable, and the acting (with the exception of one or two of the researchers, who don't even get much screentime) is flat and uninteresting. It's a shame, because for once in his career Cameron wrote a script with discernible themes- there's one point where the big bad guy (who could have been replaced with a cardboard cut-out for all I care- he was horrendous) says, "How does it feel to betray your own race?" I mean, damn, that is heavy philosophy, and he paved right over it in monotone, "I AM THE ANTAGONIST" jarhead grumble. The movie is filled with moments like this- potential for emotional attachment, themes and metaphors that could have been mined and taken further, people killed we could have felt more for, all left out to rot. And the stink is hard to ignore.
Honestly, I think it should've been made like Fantasia, no words, just the visuals. Then the scary images instead of the scary acting would make us cringe.
On second thought, the entire story is essentially a sci-fi Pocahontas, so even the script has already been done.
I didn't like it much.
I kind of loved it more than
I kind of loved it more than anything I've ever seen in my entire life.
I thought it was fantastic. The animation was, obviously, ridiculously great. I thought the story line was wonderful and had an extremely powerful message. I liked Sigourney Weaver in her role, haven't seen her in anything in a while.
I saw it twice and both times I was equally amazed.
The only problem I had with it- those glasses are freaking annoying.
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What is the message, though?
What is the message, though? I didn't get a clear message.
Who was it that said the
Who was it that said the writers were probably like, "let's make a metaphor for the native americans and then slap their faces with it, repeatedly"?
Jameson, I do believe...
And I can sorta tell you weren't fond of it, Geisty.
~Sauce
I haven't seen it,
I'm pissed because I was waiting (still am) for the OTHER Avatar to come out.
On that note: I'm afraid that
On that note:
I'm afraid that one will not be any good either, since M. Night Shymalan has got his mitts on it, and his latest stuff hasn't exactly been top notch.
If they ruin it I will
If they ruin it I will cry...
~Sauce
**is done chatting now**
Too late. They cast Dev Patel
Too late. They cast Dev Patel as that Zuko guy (I assume that's what you're talking about).
As far as "Avatar" goes, I kind of figured it was going to be really preachy about things I don't care about, and from what I've already heard from many people, it is. However, I've also been told that it's worth going to see simply for the visuals, so that's pretty much what I'm going to do.
Zoomy
I like dev patel. It's all the other characters I'm worried about. It's an Asian film
(no insult intended, it's just supposed to take place in a china-like setting) but the people they castes, beside dev patel are mostly....not Asian...
~Spauce
**really done this time**
We are the "sky people".
We are the "sky people". We're killing what we have and taking everything for granted. We're willing to do almost anything for money and we don't care about anyone but ourselves.
...I think. That's what I got. I went to see this with my conservative family & my liberal family & we had the most interesting debate at the dinner table that night.
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That message feels artificial
That message feels artificial to me, though, because it is so well-defined. Real interactions aren't like that- real humans don't do that. This gets so apparent that at times, the movie veers on the precipice of turning into a satire.
Here is technology- it is bad. See? There's angry bad music to make you feel that way about it. Here are the blue people. They are beautiful, their world is beautiful, it is diverse, everything is perfect and in balance. Pretty noises! Sexy women! Ew, look at those machines. All the same color. I don't like those. There's that bad music again.
It feels forced, and, again, there are things we as humans can glean from both sides of technology vs nature. Good and bad are not enough to justify each side's motives, to explain why people/funny blue folks feel the way they do. They're placeholders for the complicated processes we go about in everyday life to justify our actions, and in glossing over those processes, the depth of a story- and, to me, this one- is usually lost.
Again, playing theoretical director, it would have been interesting if, first, the music was cut out (would certainly add some needed grit to the battle scenes) and if the main actor actually had some internal conflict as to what choice he would eventually make. Does he think of his family? Does he have a girlfriend back on Earth? Just because he is a parapalegic Marine doesn't mean he doesn't have a life. Where is his story? Where are the stories of these soldiers? They're sad, tragic people stuck getting paid money they'll probably never be able to spend, lost on a jungle world full of (predominantly) gung-ho men. What kind of society does that cultivate? How do they make do with existence, since we know how the Na'vi do?
Maybe I expect too much from movies, though.
EDIT: Also, on a side note: UNOBTAINIUM? Really?
It made me laugh.
I almost feel like this is a
I almost feel like this is a message that has to be well defined, almost excessively so, because people aren't really looking at it.
It was supposed to be an exaggeration of human nature.
I almost think it would be interesting to see the same story, told from one of the humans point of view. Say, the colonel. Could be interesting. That's one of the things I thought about the colonel- he is portrayed as entirely evil. I have to doubt that.
Really? I quite liked the music. I thought it was... interesting. I liked what it did to the atmosphere.
@Side note- Okay. Yes. That was pretty bad.
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I disagree that Colonel
I disagree that Colonel Quaritch is portrayed as purely evil. We don't know enough about him, all we know is his attitude towards the situation he is currently in. His is merely the viewpoint of so many aggressors: that the oppressed get what they deserve, and that they ought to "be smart" and give up.
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What else is there to imply
What else is there to imply that he is not evil? There's very little room, behind his gruff, masculine, uncaring mannerisms, disregard for life of any kind (including the crew of his own gunship), and overwrought bad guy music, to assume anything else.
Thus, the watcher is pigeon-holed by the moviemakers into seeing him as evil, and you are forced to think outside the movie itself to see him as anything but.
Avatar
Avatar was a good movie, with spectacular animation. I did not have a chance to watch it in 3-d, but it still was great. It may not be as successful as Titanic or other famous James Cameron films, but it will be remembered. The plot line is pretty predictable after you learn where the biggest onoptanium deposit is. I was not completely obsessed with it like some of the people I know, but it was on the top of my mind. The animation was the star of the show, and it still blows my mind.
Avatar
I think that Avatar is a great movie! It is a bit stereotypical about the humans but otherwise, it's amazing! I thought that when the mother-tree was fell, that was sad. The character design was great and the computer effects were very amazing. I like the idea of how the Navi can connect to other animals. In short, I like that movie!
Avatar
I saw this movie recently and I thought it was fantastic. The CGI was just spectacular. I love looking at the floating mountains. The plot could've been a bit better explained. I thought that this movie was also extremely creative, with all the unique animals and plants. To sum it up this movie is great.
Avatar
I also saw this movie and I thought it was wonderful. I wouldn't mind seeing it again. It was confusing in the beginning though. Because I wasn't sure why he was talking about how his brother had his life ended by a drunk driver in the beginning. Because I hadn't even known what the movie was about when I went to see it. But it was really good.
Sophie
To continue the discussion...
I don't like James Cameron. I don't really know the man, so that's my problem more than his, but ever since his unctuous performance upon receiving the Oscar for Titanic (the directors of L.A. Confidential and the >i>Full Monty deserved to, but did NOT, win, I might add... and here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJp7Wd6Af2A the end is the killer) and the almost sickening accolades for Titanic which I thought was, at best, a B movie (simplistic plot, overwrought acting, manipulative scenes), I have felt annoyed that he, rather than some superb indie directors, has garnered so much attention.
So in my own shallow way, I had planned to boycott the film, much as I have decided that in my lifetime I will not ever, ever try grits and will never ever have another taste of sauerkraut. Part of it was Cameron, but I also have grown weary of computer graphics (CGI) and short takes (please, please give me a movie with no CGI and long takes), but several folks whose opinions to me matter urged me to go, saying the movie really was an experience to behold.
So I went, expecting to be annoyed at the dependence on CGI, at a simplistic plot line and at Cameron's penchant for bludgeoning the obvious.
Well, I was mesmerized. I felt the 3D (annoying glasses aside -- I mean really, do I have to wear TWO pairs of glasses?) brought me into the cinematic experience in ways that I had never felt before and the cumulative effect was to connect me to -- and make me believe in -- a fantasy, a world that does not, cannot exist. It felt real. The visuals were gorgeous. It was, as one critic has said, a beautiful movie.
So the technology got me. The CGI and 3D transfixed me. I was manipulated and didn't care. It drew me in. I found it enjoyable. And all the while I was, in agreement with Geist, very aware of the lack of acting, the simplistic, almost hackneyed plot and the dreary writing within the script.
But I didn't care.
Oh well. It was, simply, a pleasurable, fresh experience at the movies. It was not deep art. It was not great acting. But it was absolutely gorgeous, alluring and enjoyable. Much like a can of Red Bull on a foggy morning or a scoop of Cherry Garcia in a chocolate-dipped waffle cone on a hot summer day.
I commit to you now, though, I shall not watch the Oscars.
gg
OMG
Avatar was the best movie I have EVER seen. I thought that i was going to hate this movie because it looked really dumb but now it is my favorite movie ever.
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avatar the great
wow. james camerons avatar is the movie epic I thought it would be when I first heard about it a year ago. Wow, just wow
ps try to see it in imax, breathtaking
Out of interest, since a lot
Out of interest, since a lot of people are calling this the best movie ever-
what movies would you rank as your personal favorites?
A Knight's Tale Across the
A Knight's Tale
Across the Universe
Back To The Future (really only the first one)
Batman: The Dark Knight
Batman Begins
Big
Big Fish
Breakfast At Tiffany's
Charlie And The Chocolate Factory (the Gene Wilder one)
Chocolat
Dirty Dancing
Edward Scissorhands
Ella Enchanted
Enchanted
Erin Brockovich
Forrest Gump
Freedom Writers
Harry Potter
Hercules
Julie & Julia
Juno
Lord Of The Rings Trilogy
Moulin Rouge
Mulan
Nick and Nora's Infinite Playlist
Once
Pirates Of The Caribbean
Pride and Prejudice
Ratatouille
Razor
Rent
Serenity
Sleepless In Seattle
Slumdog Millionaire
Spiderman Trilogy
Star Wars
Stardust
Terminator (haven't seen the most recent yet)
The Bourne Trilogy
The Breakfast Club
The Corpse Bride
The Last Starfighter
The Nightmare Before Christmas
The Outsiders
V For Vendetta
Were the World Mine
X-men Trilogy
...Among others.
Also-- probably exaggerating a bit when I said "best thing ever". There are definitely better movies out there. But this one is up there. And, obviously, the animation is better than pretty much any other animation.
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I completely and utterly
I completely and utterly agree with Geist. Avatar was pretty to look at. I saw it in 3D and was blown away by the CGI. Well done, Cameron, on making the most expensive movie of all time.
But that's just all it was. Expensive and pretty. The story was one of the least original I'd ever witnessed (ever seen the crappy cartoon Atlantis ? Well if you have, don't bother with Avatar. It's identical.) and the characters were either ripped off (the girl alien=blue Pocahontas) or completely undeveloped (the main character. I had no understanding of who he was, what he wanted or what he cared about, and frankly I didn't care.). This movie was hyped up for being a revolution in filmmaking, but all I saw was some nice icing on the same drab hollywood fluff I've seen a million times before. It was very pretty fluff, but fluff all the same.
Granted , perhaps I am not the one to trust on this matter because I made it only as far as the big dramatic showdown at the end of the movie and actually fell asleep in the theatre, so maybe there were twists or characters or something worth noticing in the last half hour or so. But the fact is, what I saw was not one of the greatest movies I'd ever seen, but one of the worst. Unlike many bad movies I've sat through before, this one was pretentious, and was simply begging the audience to check out how shiny and colorful it was, as if that is the only factor in great cinematic art.
~realize
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doyourealize....
...OK, so I am hard pressed to argue with Geist or you, particularly given what I have written already, but let me just ask this, if you go to a movie that you know is going to be silly, that you know is just eye fluff, or just plain pointless but it's funny, and you go and you laugh, I mean, isn't that worth it?
So in terms of Avatar, don't you think that just for the CGI, 3D and the Weta Workshop efforts (the folks who brought you Lord of the Rings and frankly took CGI to a new level) was worth seeing? Wasn't it kind of enjoyable?
Character development? Dialogue? Plot complexity? Intricate thematic elements? Er, no. But that really didn't bother me. And I'm the biggest critic around. Fact is, I enjoyed it. It was a movie experience that I found different and refreshing and, now revealing I'm about as imaginative as the Avatar script writers, I thought it was kind of cool.
To put my next reaction to your post in context, when Star Wars first came out (I'm dating myself) I fell asleep and pissed off the people next to me because I was snoring so loudly. So I totally get your point. And I empathize. But my question, as belabored as it is, is this: Isn't it' OK if the movie is merely enjoyable?
g
People equate money spent to
People equate money spent to different things. In my case, I hope my dollars spent open a new way of looking at a way of living, at a certain facet of existence, of mining even into a tiny little part of life and making it jump out. In a way, I hope to make my money mean something.
Entertainment and imagination for entertainment's sake isn't enough to me, personally. I feel like I'm feeding something that is self-replicating, producing itself simply to exist instead of for any specific purpose when I pay for things that, as you say, are 'merely enjoyable'.
I'm a hardliner on the subject, though. I'm one of those weirdos who listen to whole albums of music nonstop and go to art galleries.
That's cool...
...I guess that sometimes I don't mind spending a few bucks for a chuckle, or a new thought or a new view. Yes, I can get my dander up with the best of them over the amount of money squandered to elict my alpha waves, but on this one, I just don't feel the need. Maybe that's a bad sign, that things are glossing over me. Or maybe it's that so much pisses me off right now -- Congress, the incredible shrinking job market, the millions and millions given Wall Street deal makers who've torn apart thousands upon millions of lives, the continued bloody wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the racist decay in New Orleans, the decimation of the news industry -- something I poured my sweat and blood into for 30 years, etc., etc., etc., -- that it's nice to just have a couple of hours of total escape.
I admit it. I'm shallow.
At least on this one.
But I do grant you that the acting was minimal, the script was lousy, the plot unimaginative and overwrought, the music AND the visuals were manipulative, but gosh I had fun. And then I went outside and saw 12 inches of fresh snow and barely made it home.
cheers. I hear you, man. Really.
gg
Hmmm...
The answer to your question is yes. It is okay if a movie is just enjoyable. And it's okay to go to a movie that you're aware is fluff, and have it be fluff, and then laugh and carry on with your life.
And yes, the visuals in Avatar were enjoyable. They were very beautiful to look at. But so are many things that I wouldn't care to stare at for two and a half hours of my life while being told it's art. The movie wasn't all wrong, and I think that it achieved exactly what it meant to; a visually stunning technical landmark in filmmaking. Bravo. Seriously.
The fact is, it just wasn't for me. The difference between Avatar and the equally beautiful Lord of the Rings is depth, which we agree Avatar was lacking. I appreciate a bad movie that I can laugh at and yes, that's worth it, but perhaps I being a huge critic as well, was too disappointed by Avatar to really appreciate it for what it was. After all the hype, nominations and rave reviews, I was sincerely shocked to find that Avatar had no message. No characters. No impressive dialogue. Etc. I am someone who usually agrees with Golden Globe and Oscar nominations, and for the past several years I have always considered the films with the most nominations to be outstanding, with few exceptions. So when I saw Avatar, and saw a movie that delivered to me in the same way as the newer Star Wars movies (grade A trash), I was seriously disappointed. For me, these films were like Avatar in that they were stunning when it came to effects, CGI, etc. but completely worthless otherwise. Maybe if Avatar had not been hyped up so much, I would have walked in open minded and seen a beautiful imaginary planet, heard a beautiful imaginary language, watched the stories of some beautiful imaginary blue people and been content. I think I was probably just too overwhelmed with shock and disappointment to appreciate the film. Perhaps I spoke too soon, and I am far more disappointed with the year 2009 in film than I am specifically at Avatar.
So yes, it's okay for a movie to be just enjoyable. For me though, Avatar just wasn't. I had a hard time enjoying it when I kept waiting for it to live up to my expectations and it never delivered. It's probably best that I passed out when I did.
[I think I may still watch the Oscars. But I plan to heckle them 'til I go hoarse.]
~realize
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As always...
...you have some perceptive, clear points. And you present a new, interesting point: The movie did not live up to expectations.
I really didn't have any. And maybe that's the difference and maybe that's an offshoot of our over-marketed world: We know so much about something before it happens, or before we experience it, that what it actually is or what actually happens is a bit of a disappointment. Forgive my sports analogy, but how many Super Bowl games have actually lived up to the hype? ONE -- New York Jets and Joe Namath beating the Baltimore Colts in Super Bowl III. Joe Namath, brash superstar quarterback guaranteed victory against the behemoth Colts coached by already legendary Don Shula. Yah, right. But he delivered. And the game was great.
So my prelude to Avatar: I ain't going to it. Then a funny thing happened. I was standing in line to Sherlock Holmes one night and I was standing in line because everyone was waiting to get into Avatar. The person in front of us started talking to us and he looked familiar. Finally I asked: Have I seen you somewhere? Do I know you? "Probably you've seen me on TV," he said. Now I never got his name, but he was right -- he's what is commonly known as a "character actor" and has appeared in Law and Order and some movies by Ridley Scott. But he told me that we should see Avatar. "Really, you should go. From my perspective, CGI is deadly, I hate it and it puts people like me out of work. So when I heard all the hype about Avatar I vowed to stay away. But I went. I was surprised. It is an experience that you should have. Really."
I was then barraged by several others, later, whose opinions I value who said, collectively, don't worry about the plot or the acting, just go to experience the 3D.
So I went knowing to expect nothing from some of the basics of good filmmaking. And it was an enjoyable experience. So I was not disappointed.
So a question: How much of our lives do we make assessments based on preconceived notions? And how many of our experiences are affected by unwanted marketing which force us to make assessments before we've had a chance to appreciate something on its own?
Thanks for the discussion, folks. Continue on, if you'd like. It would be good to hear from others on what they thought. I'll bow out.
cheers
gg
I personally enjoyed the
I personally enjoyed the film, as a whole I felt that, while it wasn't anything groundbreaking (in terms of storytelling), it wasn't a terrible movie either, there were redeeming qualities in the visuals and in the faith of the indigenous people. What Avatar did most for me was to give optimism and excitement for the future of computer generated graphics. Many of the techniques being pioneered in Avatar will find their way into other films (and perhaps not be used as a crutch in those films; I felt Cameron wanted too badly to show us how pretty he could make a film instead of how deep), and I feel this is a good thing, as immersion within your entertainment media is one of the keys to enjoying it.
If Avatar does nothing but show how we can immerse individuals within a completely fictitious world through visuals alone then we have hope: there are plenty of directors and writers who can give us a compelling story, now they can give us everything else too.
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For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill. -Sun Tzu
welcome ...
Noble House... good points.
(P.S. Have you read Shogun?)
gg
I have read Shogun, Tai-Pan
I have read Shogun, Tai-Pan and Noble House three times apiece. I have read Gai-Jin twice, and King Rat and Whirlwind once... Needless to say I'm a huge Clavell fan, I only regret that I'll never be able to meet the man! Now, if only they could have taken some inspiration from Clavell's ability to craft character and story and apply it to Avatar, what a movie we would have then!
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For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill. -Sun Tzu
Hmm..
Well, being the occasionally prejudiced person I am, I walked into the theater (after waiting one and a half hours in line--ridiculous!) in utter despair, assuming the movie would be the worst one I've ever seen. Three hours later (much too long, don't you think?) I thought this would officially be my new favorite movie. The graphics were beautiful, the storyline amazing, and I didn't really mind the acting. There were parts that made me flinch (I'm more of the romantic sappy movie type) but I doubt I've ever been so engrossed in a movie. I didn't realize that James Cameron directed both this and Titanic (which is my favorite movie), and I guess that made it so much better!
~Sambo
Translucent Roses
I liked it, for the most
I liked it, for the most part.
The glasses are awful. They're not made for people who already wear glasses, and I didn't feel like it was 3D enough for it to be worth wearing the glasses for three or so hours. Every once in awhile there'd be a tree seed floating unnaturally close, but I didn't think the 3D stuff was really great.
I liked the subtle political commentary in the plotline. That sort of made me think.
I felt like the movie went too fast at the end. Neytiri went through quite a few love/hate feelings flips towards Jake Sully in the last half hour. I don't think anyone was expecting the tree to fall down, though. I certainly wasn't.
I was sort of disappointed that they didn't spend more time on what it was like to turn into an avatar... It took less than ten seconds to completely defy all of human evolution by turning your body into a seven-foot tall blue person, and they hardly said anything about it. And also I thought the scene where he runs away from the hospital after he's an avatar was a little misplaced. There was nothing at all mentioned about his dangerous, blatant disobedience later, and it seemed more than a bit out of character.
The Unobtanium thing was sort of clever, but I think it must have been hard to say the line about the large deposit of Unobtainium right under their tree with a straight face.
It was beautiful, though. The floating mountains were brilliant. (Yes, the mountains were my favorite part.) The forest and all the outside Pandora scenes, for that matter, were beautiful.
I walked into the theater
I walked into the theater about 15 minutes late, so I didn't realize that he was a paraplegic, and so I too was surprised at the early hospital scene. After watching for a while I noticed that he didn't have the use of his legs, so it became obvious: imagine, for the first time in a while, you now have a fresh set of legs, you're going to want to use them, and that's what he was doing.
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For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill. -Sun Tzu
NobleHouse...
What an interesting idea and funny that only by your comment did I really think about this in a personal way....
My Dad and I got polio in 1953 -- he when he was 38 and me when I was 2. It was shortly before the vaccine was announced. I was affected only as a toddler and youth. But my dad was paralyzed thought with a corset and metal braces, he was able to get around pretty well and, as a doctor, made house calls right up to the night of his death in 1987.
So until you wrote that, I hadn't connected the movie to my Dad and I hadn't recalled a story...
My dad NEVER talked about his illness (he was in the hospital for nine months) or its impact. He recoiled whenever anyone called him handicapped or offered any kind of help. "I'm not handicapped," he'd say. And only once did he ever lament to me his loss of legs. And it was at the weirdest moment: I was 16 years old and was driving 30 miles to go to the Motor Vehicle Department to get my license. Dad was with me -- he played hookie from work for a few hours -- and it was pouring down rain. As we approached the "city" we went past a golf course and there were four idiots playing in the rain, hovering under umbrellas as one guy was putting on the green. I hate golf. My Dad really hated golf ("Why in the world would you pay good money to chase a ball around all day?") but as we drove by and he looked out the window at those soggy golfers, my Dad muttered: "God I wish I was out there."
That's all he said. We drove the rest of the way in silence.
gg
I loved this movie, I didn't
I loved this movie, I didn't expect it to be so good. The preview was sort of off-putting to me but i thought that the movie itself was a pleasant surprise. I thought it was really cool how they made the natives of Pandora so life-like and how they had both them and the real-life people in the same parts together. I found the special effects incredible and I thoroughly enjoyed watching it. Also, I didn't see it in 3-D thank goodness, because they make me have a headache and not enjoy watching the movie.
"When we find someone whose weirdness is compatible with ours, we join up with them and fall into mutually satisfying weirdness - and call it love - true love." (don't know who said this...)
AVATAR
This movie was incredible. I have seen it twice in 3D and I’m very excited to see it again. So much effort went into creating this movie, and making it one of the greatest movies of all time. I will be at the premier of the sequel and I can't wait for that day. The characters that were chosen in the movie fit perfectly. My favorite part of the movie was seeing how the Avatars connected with their habitat. This was amazing, and I can’t wait to see the next one.
Indians
I watched this movie in 2D and then in 3D and for me, it carried the same meaning. I feel a lot of people liked this movie because it was in 3D and I don't feel that way. It was good in 3D and 2D.
While watching this I think the writer was thinking of WWII and the destruction of the Native American tribes. I think this movie could be a message that different cultures like the Native Americans are important.
This movie was much like MJ's This Is It as I was filled with joy, happiness, and at the same time a sadness (especially when the film ended).
Avatar is going on my favorites list.
Pardon me for asking, but how
Pardon me for asking, but how do WWII and the destruction of Native American tribes relate to each other? I didn't get any impression of WWII from this film.
I think..
The genocide in WWll and the murder of Indians and the Na'vi are what they're trying to say. That's how I interpreted it.
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The World War II metaphor
The World War II metaphor still doesn't make sense to me. There was no genocide here, no systematic killing through procedure, but warfare. And sure, there was an initial unprovoked crushing defeat followed by a comeback, but you can also say the same of Vietnam, Korea, and Iraq. So I don't see why World War II is so special.
The Native American metaphor, yes, I can see, but that's also because this story is copyright-infringingly close to that of Pocahontas.
WWII?
I am responding to oliverames' idea that it had a connection WWII. Unless your refering to the fact that america came out of nowhere to win the war, I'm thinkin jamestown/plymoth. I made the Native American conection insantly
So Avatar just won two Golden
So Avatar just won two Golden Globes and is expected to go on to win big at the Oscars.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8464700.stm
Thoughts?
I have yet to hear anything
I have yet to hear anything about the plot. I can sort of guess that it's about somebody being put in a newly engineered body, but other than that... Nothing comprehensible. And I'm not even sure about that in the first place.
-A
I've noticed people comparing
I've noticed people comparing it to Pocahontas; yep, I see that. Anybody seen the movie Dances With Wolves? We watched it in history class and I went "WOAH! It's the Avatar storyline!" And then I was corrected, and informed that the Avatar storyline was, in fact, the Dances With Wolves storyline.
It was pretty. It was very pretty. I liked that it was pretty.
So overall, plot=meh and already-done, visuals=OHMYGOD incredible.
This is what I think.